Dissecting the Picks | Jaguars Happy Hour

@BestToDoIt7 take care if him as well

@Darion Allen would have preferred not to draft ETN. But I’m rooting for him now

@Rapsheets You will be happy you got him bro, he is a good guy and a baller on the field.

Always! He a great kid!

@Purplestuff problem is we already have a top ten back on a team with tons of holes.

Easily

Let’s just shoot for 7 wins.

@smackoholick I’m only gonna say 14-3 to make it realistic

@Papayaplayer Joe24 for case in point go watch the Cisco vs Wake Forest tape. He gets trucked by a slot receiver that doesn’t see him coming, takes multiple horrible angles leading to multiple big plays in the run game. Has one really nice tackle of Newman in the box.

@S Myers I don’t know Syracuse that well. I look for traits and instincts and his production speaks for itself as a ballhawk. I like the aggression and the willingness to make a big play which is what our safeties in Jax lack because of historic lack of speed. I want our free to be an enforcer and difference maker in run and pass. I think Cisco will get better coaching and will fit into their system to fit his strengths. We have the other free agent safety to be the cover guy and deep ball stop gap. Double D was a ferocious hitter but not great in coverage and did not have many interceptions 14 in 9 years.

@Papayaplayer Joe24 Ball production does not mean a guy is great in coverage, so we will have to disagree that it speaks for itself. Darius had his best ball production later in his career, and that did coincide with improvements in coverage, but it’s not necessarily a 1:1 thing. Cisco had a lot of tipped passes come to him, and he does have a knack for jumping routes. But he’s not a guy who you can rely on to be in the right place all the time. He’s got good traits, I said that and agree with you. But he is not an enforcer, especially in the run game. He’s a liability as a tackler. That’s not what you want from the last line of defense. Jenkins is a 220+ pound player who isn’t nearly as fast as Cisco. His best trait is his range, and if he gets the right coaching, his natural ball skills can have a chance to shine. But athleticism isn’t the most important quality at safety, reliability and awareness are. So, I am optimistic that Cisco can become a good player. But his warts are extremely obvious if you actually watch him play, vs. looking at his highlights. I am just trying to have a discussion about the player, by the way, not to say he sucks. I like a lot of what he brings to the table, and I think his flaws are coachable. BUT he has a lot to clean up if he’s going to make an impact in the NFL.

Dude is a high ceiling low floor ball hawk. He’s a elite prospect not anywhere near a complete player or a finished product. Stop being so harsh he’s 21 and he’s gonna get some awesome coaching and a year to sit behind established smart vets who can tackle, play in coverage and take good angles

@Sam Rosendahl Chill buddy, read it again. I literally said he has elite traits. There are plenty of players with elite traits who never pan out, and there are plenty of players who are far more polished than he is coming out of college. So, is your premise that it’s not fair to note that he’s terrible at one of the key aspects of safety play? If you bothered to pay attention, you’d see I am optimistic about his potential. But there are GLARING problems with his tape. As you say, low floor, high ceiling. But that doesn’t make him an elite prospect. Elite prospects are guys you take in the first round, round and a half. Cisco is an elite athlete with a nose for the ball. At this stage, literally everything else is projection. And that’s a significant factor in where he was drafted.

Ramsey will get embarrassed trying to play head games with Lawrence
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Lets get it

I mean kamara is the comparison because of Ettiene’s ability as a receiver not because he’s expected to be like kamara

@Sam Rosendahl yeah I know, but what I’m saying is Kamara’s receiving abilities are on a completely different level. Etienne didn’t run routes at Clemson. He only ran screens and when he motioned out wide he ran straight. Only one time he ran a stop and go against BC.

Every decision they’ve made is about winning. Tebow is a winner and all he’s ever done is win, he can teach the losing jags a thing or two. He’s a culture setter.

@Sam Rosendahl Sure if your living in the past. Has he been winning in the NFL the last 6 years? Wake up mann stop being blinded by being a fan. Tebow is an outstanding person. Stick to commentating Mr. Tebow your legend U of F will live on

You do realize that won’t make a hall of fame running back, correct?

@Chase Barrick I realize I don’t respect your opinion