Better Shot at Being the Surprise Team in the NFC: Bears or Giants?

How can they get more then 17?

thats cold bro why you got to do my team like that lol Who’s ya team bro let me know.

@BEZ LLAMA Giants will lose during their bye week.

As a Giants fan… yeah no expectations

But I feel like they could get at least a bit better. Have at least some expectations. ​ @Charles Han

@Michael F. Bender you guys have arguably the best qb ever and you haven’t made it to the super bowl in a decade. Talk about a joke of an organization

@Johnny Chimpo the front office has made some mistakes, but the Bears haven’t had a solid starting QB since Jim McMahon or Jay Cutler.

@Michael F. Bender I can’t disagree with you there…both teams have failed. Mitch was a decent qb, we will see what he’s got this year with the Steelers

I don’t know how you can talk crap about the bears now that they have Getsy. You must know how good he is and how much of a difference he can make with Fields. Combine that with an ex lineman who knows the importance of the trenches…they are 100% moving in the right direction. The packers on the other hand aren’t, they are worse than last year

@Johnny Chimpo we’ll see this upcoming season, won’t we?

@marceLLDa Raqian I don’t give 2 sh!ts about Chicago or the division. No dog in the race, just observing as a fan of the sport. Calling a spade a spade. Except the RB comment, I dunno why I said that. Rookie Gm and HC, rookies in the secondary, a terrible offense will directly exacerbate that, a statistically bottom 2 qb (not entirely his fault but the man stares down way too much). Can’t draft the way they do and expect success. Detroit is passing Chicago up, I’d be sounding the alarm.

The Giants were an original franchise – and Justin Fields has shown nothing.
Danny Dimes has won NFC Offensive Player of the Week multiple times.

@Mark Roberts the giants will never be the bears. Charter franchise is the most powerful team in the NFL and the bears can shut down the league if they wanted

@Mark Roberts The only two remaining charter organizations are the Bears and Cardinals. Not sure what ‘original’ means but none of this has anything to do with any semblance of a logical statement or argument from either you or the O.P. . As for Fields, he hasn’t shown anything because he’s only a sophomore crawling out from under the most dysfunctional coaching staff in recent memory. Danny ‘Dimes’ however has shown us all how to trip over the 30 yard line I guess.

@kegawine k how many sbs the bears have

Yes, we might struggle in the beginning for sure but down the stretch they will become elite

When your QB scrambles out of the pocket 90% of the time isn’t because he sees an opening…he’s about to get sacked.

@Poiny 90% u might be adding those PA plays bcuz he only had like 6 rushes this entire preseason.

@Niners_Worldwide you laughing at Trey Lance being your QB1? I would too

I’d just be happy if it’s average

@Grant Rosenbaum lmao no shot it’s by far if at all

@Grant Rosenbaum they may be the worst team but by far? How much do you think the lions actually improved?

So much emphasis on the head coaches, but i think it’s about the team of coaches out together, how they are working together, how their scheme is built for the squad of players skills, and how much the players buy into that. All the right noise is coming from the bears camp on all those fronts so I’m excited. Media have zero expectations from them so they have nothing to lose.

What “stupid stuff”? They have a rookie head coach, a 2nd year QB who struggled mightily his first year, or a roster with very little proven talent and a questionable O-Line? Pretty significant “stuff” if you ask around🤷‍♂️

Yeah because they spent that time writing off the Giants who always find ways to surprise. Whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing is up for discussion lol

#gobucks 😒🤦🏿‍♂️🤨

_If_ he does so, great. His team may want to win for _him._

But they don’t want to win for the current management.

It’s not only Justin Fields. The O line will be better and Offensive Coordinator/ play caller LG is the real deal! Game changer more then any player…

@kingfulness What part of sacked 9 times in a game and still got the job done don’t you understand

Tannerhill basically gifted them that game.

@G L put Daniel jones on that team if he’s even sacked 4 times I bet they lose that game

@kingfulness thankyou. The Giants have not been able to leave preseason healthy since the year after plaxico shot himself

Yeah Jones is a low tier QB

Depends on the o line and wr’s. I have faith in Fields and Mooney but outside of those two everyone is a question mark. I also have faith in Eberflus so I’m hoping the Bears have a future, I’d say 5-6 games could be won but I won’t be surprised if they pick in the top 5 next year

So if da Bears are going to be better then last season, name the 7 or more wins in 2022.

@SAINT 65 Lions at least once, hopefully Vikings once, Commanders, Texans, Giants, Jets, Falcons

@Mike Keane 6-11 at best!

@Dominic Bandola rookie HC, rookie GM. Mooney is the only good WR and will inevitably be double teamed, the rest is a hodgepodge wr room that is bottom 5. Pringle is gonna have to do something amazing because that’s all that’s going to be available. Starting a rookie cb and safety. I mean their draft was straight up not good, couple of reaches, lot of day 2 picks that are pretty much throwing darts at a board and hoping something lands. At the very least should’ve gotten a WR but nope. You did nothing to address a bottom 5 offense with a terrible line and a qb who was statistically bottom 3 in every category (not entirely his fault but the dude stares down receivers way too much). Which means the defense will be on the field more, not good for those rookies who will inevitably struggle to adjust. The mediocre drafts and lack of addressing positions of need are killing this team. They will be the odd team out in their own division as even Detroit has finally flipped the switch and will surpass Chicago. The floor is 3 wins, the ceiling is an incredibly optimistic 7 wins ONLY because their schedule is so soft compared to everyone else. I would bet the farm they start 3-3 and everything goes downhill after that, won’t have a winning record period. They’ll probably end up with the 5th-6th pick and miss out on the key player they need and the cycle continues. Future looks pretty grim for at least the next 2 years

Only logical take

Giants have some sneaky talent as well. The rookie TE Bellinger was under a lot of radars but has all of the physical tools to be great. Micah McFadden should immediately step up to be one of the best MLB2s in the league, UDFA Tomon Fox is shocking people with his performance (he broke LT’s college sack record so it shouldn’t be so surprising), and I think Joshua Ezeudu will step up once he returns from injury and be a starting caliber LG by season’s end. I wouldn’t rule out UDFA Austin Allen being a breakout redzone threat.

A more than solid core indeed!!! Very good…

@IllCaesar Yeah my issue with the Giants comes down to 2 things, injury and execution. I don’t think execution will be an issue with Daboll coaching but those injuries are really starting to pile up and Week 1 is still a week away

Do some research before commenting Giants have one of the youngest rosters in the league. Name all the ” old dudes” I’ll wait

@Frank Frega people just say anything. When I read his post I knew he doesn’t know the Giants roster

Giants have one of the younger rosters in the league

@Antwan Campbell our oldest player on defense is literally Leonard Williams . Our whole secondary is like 23 at the max

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